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Monday, 06-NOV-2006 by Donald MacPherson - HydroComp Technical Director

This is the first of my two November musings, and I'll share with you some thoughts about last week's IBEX show in Miami. The second musing will probably be all about the upcoming METS show in Amsterdam next week. You gotta love the October and November trade show travel in the marine business...
 
I enjoyed the show, the weather was OK, and it was a productive visit for us. Vin, Mat and I had a good time discussing new features in Rhino and RhinoMarine with Larry Leibman (Proteus Engineering) and Steve Baer (Robert McNeel & Associates) over some pretty good Irish food and beer. (It wasn't Galway, but for Miami, not too bad.) It was also great to run into colleagues that I have not seen in a while, such as New Hampshire native turned Florida import Dan Mielke (OneDesign Ltd.), early PropExpert user Dave Fessenden (Cummins Atlantic), and especially a colleague from my days in Wisconsin, Tim Graul (TGMD). And, I would be remiss if I didn't also mention seminar manager Barbara Jean Walsh (IBEX) who makes that special effort to let me know when the University of Maine trumps the University of New Hampshire in ice hockey.
 
It is a bit out of character for me, but I thought I'd list a few things I saw at IBEX that made me furrow my brow in wonder.
 
1. There were no naval architects or designers exhibiting. I'm not sure why, but I found this very surprising. FLIBS?
2. Similarly, there was only one hull software program exhibited this year.
3. Don't people know how silly they look wearing cell phone ear pieces for the entire show. Buddy, it doesn't make you look like a secret agent. In fact, it makes you look like something out of Star Trek. Now, if that's the look you're going for...
4. Giant green aliens. Truly - there were giant green aliens.
5. Companies still calling it a "cavitation plate". Guys, it does nothing for cavitation, it helps stop ventilation of the propeller, not cavitation.
 
And now my personal favorite - the on-board real-time propeller slip gauge. Anyone who knows me, or has taken one of our propeller seminars, could guess that this would get me agitated. Propeller slip is an out-dated way to compare propeller performance based on the advance speed of the geometric pitch helix versus boat speed. It never really actually told you anything, but when all propellers more-or-less performed in a similar way, you could use slip to make a guess at the relationship between pitch, speed and RPM. These days, however, slip is something that I wish were removed from our vernacular (like "hull speed"). More damage is done with slip than any benefit that could possibly be gained. Let me give you some of the reasons why.
 
Propeller slip uses pitch in its calculation. What pitch? Face pitch, hydrodynamic effective pitch, some average pitch, maximum pitch, pitch at the 0.7R, nose-tail pitch? Well, you get the idea.
 
Boat speed is not the speed of advance into the propeller. The effect of wake fraction is completely neglected in propeller slip, and it does not necessarily correlate from boat-to-boat. Add a propeller tunnel to a boat and wake fraction is different, so the slip should be different for the same boat speed. Installation with a shaft angle of 15 degrees results in a different speed into the propeller than an angle of 8 degrees. (Remember the cosine rule?) Again, same performance, different slip.
 
Perhaps the most obvious example is that a propeller with enough cup can theoretically have a slip of zero or even a negative value. I have seen numerous occasions where a perfectly acceptable propeller was considered "incorrect" by someone quoting a speed versus slip chart out of some book or article. I have also seen people purchase a propeller based on slip and get it very, very wrong.
 
Now someone comes up with the idea that boat operators need to know this real-time. I conducted an informal survey at IBEX and found no one, save the maker of this gauge, who could see any useful purpose for it. (But, the salesman did say that people were waiting in line to get one, so maybe we just don't "get it".) Of course, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a company creating any product that the market requests, but there is the potential, if not the likelihood, for this product to be used to reach conclusions about a propeller's performance that are not valid. All I ask is that anyone dealing with propellers learns what propeller slip really is, what it isn't, and what knowing this number will - and will not - tell you.

Michael Porter, Marine Design wrote on 01-DEC-2006:
Wherever did you find "good Irish food"??? In Miami Beach??

Donald MacPherson, HydroComp wrote on 04-DEC-2006:
It was the Playwright Irish Pub on Washington Avenue. Nothing fancy, just a pretty good sports bar especially for soccer fans. 


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